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New in CA and his 600cc ultralight formula

 
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Greg Maga



Joined: 23 Mar 2009
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Location: United States, California, Sherman Oaks

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:55 am    Post subject: New in CA and his 600cc ultralight formula Reply with quote

Hi everybody! Very Happy

I'm Greg, automotive engineer and designer, recently arrived in CA from Europe.
I've discovered the existence of a F500 class, and especially the future F600 and am very interested because of its definition.

When I was in Europe I've developed (3 years ago) an ultralight 600cc MC engine equipped open wheeler for local enthusiasts.

Follow these Youtube links and don't hesitate to give me your feeling :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKE8p8k-mJ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMh0611hGx0
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Jeff Blumenthal



Joined: 16 Mar 2007
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Location: United States, Ohio,

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Dragon-R looks like fun. If I'm right about the lack of suspension, you'll find the rubber pucks we use in F500 will improve the ride and adjustability. Your car also seems to have a more upright seating position than most F5's.
Hopefully some of the West Coast drivers will chime in and offer you an opportunity to come to an autocross or roadrace. Welcome.
-Jeff B.
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Jim Murphy



Joined: 16 Mar 2007
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Location: United States, Georgia, Dunwoody

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And you really need wider grippier Hoosier race slicks as well - just way too much horsepower for those little tires. As you look around our forum you will learn a lot about our class.

Jim
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Jeff Jorgenson



Joined: 04 May 2007
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Location: United States, California, San Francisco

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Greg,
Which part of CA are you in? We will be running at Sears Point (also know to some people as Infineon but they're not paying me so to me it's always Sears Point) in Sonoma this weekend. If you have a chance come on by.
-Jeff
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Greg Maga



Joined: 23 Mar 2009
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Location: United States, California, Sherman Oaks

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your answers.
I'm located in north LA...
The DragonR Formula was initially designed for "learning" or for having fun, not for racing, that explains the choice of tires.
For a racing version, Hoosier slick tires would be great.
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Greg Maga



Joined: 23 Mar 2009
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Location: United States, California, Sherman Oaks

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff Blumenthal wrote:
The Dragon-R looks like fun. If I'm right about the lack of suspension, you'll find the rubber pucks we use in F500 will improve the ride and adjustability. Your car also seems to have a more upright seating position than most F5's.
Hopefully some of the West Coast drivers will chime in and offer you an opportunity to come to an autocross or roadrace. Welcome.
-Jeff B.


About the lack of suspensions : the best thing to do is to drive it! I think you'd be surprised. Wink
The 2nd thing about that is that there isn't exactly "lack of suspensions". It's a combinaison of some parts flexibilities and suspension angles.
It works exactly like a kart chassis.
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Jim Murphy



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We tried the "kart" type of suspension back in the early 1980's and it was a disaster on the bumpier courses - yes, this country has many bumpy road race tracks. The only way we would be allowed to become a national class was to add some type of cheap suspension and, thus, the rubber puck suspension, and later, with rocker arms for multiplication, came to be. We became a National class in 1984. In 1987 we went to a 80" wheelbase from 73" for high speed cornering stability (and foot protection). Once you actually experience our F5's then you will understand.

Jim
Been messing with these cars since 1982
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